- August 27, 2012 at 11:21 pm #2871rgkNew MemberJoin Date: Oct 2011Posts: 36Offline
Just curious if anybody received their Monochrom yet…
- August 28, 2012 at 12:45 am #2872Josh LehrerLegendary MemberJoin Date: Aug 2014Posts: 233Currently using:
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Our first delivery arrives tomorrow (Tuesday)! I'll be posting a few photos on Red Dot so stay tuned.
- August 30, 2012 at 2:12 am #2880John BuckleyNew MemberJoin Date: Feb 2012Posts: 3Offline
Here are some thoughts on the Monochrom you might enjoy:
- September 11, 2012 at 12:22 am #2914
Any additional pictures and updates on the M Monochrom deliveries?
I am very happy that this camera is such a hit. Spent some years on the various forums as a proponent of Monochrome Digital cameras. My original DSLR is monochrome, 20 years old now. There was never any doubt in my mind about the advantages of a monochrome sensor for black and white work.
- September 17, 2012 at 6:27 pm #2935marcerwinNew MemberJoin Date: Sep 2012Posts: 1Offline
rgk;3005 wrote: Just curious if anybody received their Monochrom yet…
Got mine on 8/28. It's amazing! 😉
- September 17, 2012 at 8:55 pm #2943
How do you like it???
Well, the new “M” is out. Cost less than the Monochrom, More megapixels, video, and liveview.
Anyone going to cancel their M Monochrom pre-order? I am not. I think the new camera will appeal to a different group of photographers than those that want the Monochrom. If anything- I suspect more people will order the Monochrom now that the announcements are done.
- September 17, 2012 at 9:28 pm #2951Bob MooreNew MemberJoin Date: Oct 2011Posts: 28Offline
Brian;3102 wrote: If anything- I suspect more people will order the Monochrom now that the announcements are done.
- September 20, 2012 at 12:12 pm #2996stephanNew MemberJoin Date: Nov 2011Posts: 100Offline
I will get mine tomorrow. I will not cancel my order for the new M, as from the specifications it should be better than the M (without the color option, of course)
- September 20, 2012 at 11:53 pm #3004
I posted this on the Leica forum- again, it is my personal speculation on the CCD used for the M Monochrom.
Low-noise, higher well-capacity (number of photons that can hit a pixel before it saturates), and better uniformity are all required for a better monochrome image. The M Monochrom goes to ISO 10,000 – meaning the noise floor was improved over the M9, as the color filter is responsible for 1-Fstop of loss. The well capacity is 1/2 higher than the Cmosis sensor used in the M.
I think Truesense is “cherry picking” the best of the best of the detectors for the M Monochrom. Maybe the center of the wafers, again speculation. Compared with the M-E, the M Monochrom is $2500 higher in price. A more expensive detector because of lower yield would account for a lot of the cost.
I think it will be a while before you see an “M” monochrome. I've had my current Monochrome Digital for 20 years. I've waited long enough for a new one.
- November 2, 2012 at 5:51 am #3135rikoNew MemberJoin Date: Sep 2012Posts: 4Offline
I am new here. I just started joining various forums for Leica and RF recently. Got my M9-P, Nov last year – I did not know that Leica was going to launch M Monochrom – otherwise I would have waited. Bummer. As a long time user of M6 with B&W films (missed using agfa 25, ilford 50 & tmax 3200), I probably would have waited and not to purchased M9-P. Now I am thinking of getting M Monochrom and sell M9-P.
I am just curious if anyone has received M Monochrom. If so, what is the wait time and from which dealer?
- November 2, 2012 at 6:52 pm #3139Jack MacDEstablished MemberUSA, St. Louis, MO and Phoenix, AZJoin Date: Jun 2011Posts: 367Currently using:
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Easy to trade in your M9 with Dale if you are in the USA.
I see Amazon is saying they have M in stock, but I would always prefer to deal with a very reliable person, Josh or David at Dale Photo.
- November 2, 2012 at 9:49 pm #3141David KFrequent MemberJoin Date: Jun 2011Posts: 199Offline
I'll second Jack's recommendation about dealing with David and Josh. Aside from good customer service they have an extremely close relationship with Leica…which never hurts in those iffy situations about whether it's a warranty or non-warranty repair. Been dealing with them for years and they have come thru for me on more than one occasion.
- November 6, 2012 at 4:55 am #3168rikoNew MemberJoin Date: Sep 2012Posts: 4Offline
Thank you Jack MacD and David K for the suggestion. I may try to keep m9-P for color and daytime work and use m monochrom for low light, night, personal projects. Not sure how wise it is to spend that kind of money. I barely explore the possibility of making great b&w rendition by way of conversion from m9-p which I think there are some potential disregards the high ISO and better resolution in m monochrom,
Though I need color for client works.
I may need both.
- November 7, 2012 at 9:46 pm #3176Kurt KamkaFrequent MemberJoin Date: Jun 2011Posts: 70Offline
Are Monochrom's still trickling in? It certainly seems like an agonizingly slow introduction. I sent a request to my favorite Leica dealer in May before the announcement and I still haven't seen a glimpse of the light of day.
- November 8, 2012 at 1:05 am #3177
My personal opinion: the CCD's for the M Monochrom are the “best of the best” as uniformity is even more important in a Monochrome image. I suspect this slows production. I'd rather have the “best of the best” rather than anything less.
My original “Store-Bought” digital camera is 20 years old this year, a Kodak KAF-1600 Monochrome/Infrared CCD, was a zero-defect 1.6MPixel sensor. It has 3 “hot pixels” now. Not bad for 20 years. It cost $12,400.
- November 8, 2012 at 1:42 am #3178Bob MooreNew MemberJoin Date: Oct 2011Posts: 28Offline
My local dealer finally received one…it is everything you imagine and then some.
I may well sell off 90 percent of my stuff and concentrate on the mono and the new M.
It really is that good.
- November 8, 2012 at 2:06 am #3179Josh LehrerLegendary MemberJoin Date: Aug 2014Posts: 233Currently using:
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Monochrom's are coming in, just very slowly. Demand is still extremely high which is great, but it will probably be a number of months before us dealers are caught up on our lists. Everyone I know that's received one absolutely loves it, and having some brief time to test it myself recently, I can confirm that there is no other camera like it that I've ever used.
- November 9, 2012 at 11:04 pm #3187
The oldest lens that I have lined up to try with the Monochrom is almost 80 years.
I guess it can wait a few months longer.
- November 22, 2012 at 7:32 pm #3203jgtNew MemberJoin Date: Nov 2012Posts: 1Offline
any mono users experiencing long delays after several exsposures? im waiting up to 3 minutes before i can shoot ? using a 32g card so that might be it?
- December 18, 2012 at 8:09 pm #3326
Mine will be arriving this week- will test that. With the M9: shooting DNG+JPEG will slow things down dramatically. The M-Monochrom uses much of the same hardware/firmware. Try shooting DNG only, if you have JPEG enabled.
- December 23, 2012 at 5:12 am #3345
Mine came in yesterday, did a quick RF calibration test with a 1950 Jupiter-3 that is rebuilt to the Leica standard for focal length and in new focus mount modified for 0.8m close-focus.
First picture with the new camera today
L1000008 by putahexanonyou, on Flickr
Jupiter-3, wide-open, R25 filter, +1 exposure compensation. Straight export to Jpeg using LR3.
L1000011 by putahexanonyou, on Flickr
The required brick wall test.
L1000019 by putahexanonyou, on Flickr
- December 27, 2012 at 7:39 am #3363Pete WalentinNew MemberJoin Date: Jul 2011Posts: 195Offline
Brian that is a cool Christmas present. I am pretty sure Henry will make you very happy.
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