• In reply to: Leica Store wrote a new post, Testing the Pentax 105mm f/2.4 vs. the Leica 120mm f/2.5 APO on the Leica S2 We’ve been experimenting with alternative lenses on the Leica S2 for the better part of a year now, trying to see which lenses perform best and offer an S2 user some kind of additional functionality or creative possibilities. Some basic lenses, like the Hasselblad 80mm f/2.8 CF, have no real benefit as the Leica 70mm Summarit-S ASPH offers a faster maximum aperture, weather sealing, autofocus and superior image quality in just about every measure. Then, we have specialty lenses. These are the ones that interest me - ones that offer something different.  A lens we’ve been wanting to test for some time is the SMC Pentax 105mm f/2.4. The lens is generally well-regarded among Pentax 67 users, especially for shallow depth-of-field portraiture. After getting my hands on one, I figured a test was in order and put it head to head against the outstanding Leica 120mm f/2.5 APO-Macro-Summarit-S. How does the Pentax 67 105mm f/2.4 stack up against Leica’s 120mm f/2.5 on the S2? Setting aside that the Leica is a macro lens and the Pentax is not, both offer a similar focal length and almost the same maximum aperture (within a 1/10th of a stop). Instead of breaking out the test charts, I decided to give the lenses a head-to-head test on the streets of Old Fort Lauderdale.

    Pentax 105 (with P67 to S adapter) and Leica 120 side-by-side

    Almost any decent lens can perform well at f/8-f/11, so I was really curious to see how these two fast-aperture short teles would measure up when shot wide-open. I figure if you're going to go with a fast lens, you're going to want to use it to reap low-light advantages and/or use the shallow DOF for creative use.

    Leica S2 with Pentax 105mm 1/4000th @ f/2.4, ISO 320 100% crop

    Testing I didn't use a tripod or cable release when shooting these tests. I also didn't move closer to the subject with the 105mm to match the framing of the 120mm. My technique was simple: wander around looking for photos, take a shot, then without moving my feet, change lenses and shoot the same basic picture at the same aperture setting (letting the camera’s meter determine shutter speed) and try to select the same focal point. I used autofocus for the 120 and manual focus for 105. My goal wasn't to shoot under perfect, ideal conditions. Rather, I wanted to see how each would work in an actual shooting scenario. Now, these happened to be pretty easy conditions - good weather, plenty of sunlight, no deadline, no pressure. Just a nice Sunday stroll around Old Fort Lauderdale with non-moving subjects. On the processing side, all images were converted in Adobe Lightroom 3.4.1 using my standard S2 preset. For each pair of shots, the same white balance, tone curve and sharpness settings were used. The only difference was some minor exposure adjustment to better match the two shots to each other and eliminate minor metering differences. This first pair of flower shots is just to show the overall feel of the different lenses at close focus. The Pentax was right up against minimum focus distance, while the Leica, of course, still had more room to go being a macro lens. Both were shot from roughly the same distance, and the greater magnification of the 120 is pretty clear. Note the color difference as well. The same white balance was used for both shots, so the difference is in the lens.  

    Leica S2 with Pentax 105mm 1/350th @ f/2.4, ISO 320

    Leica S2 with Leica 120mm 1/180th @ f/2.5, ISO 320

    Leica S2 with Pentax 105mm 1/1500th @ f/2.4, ISO 320

    Leica S2 with Leica 120mm 1/1000th @ f/2.5, ISO 320

      Below is another shot just to get a feel for image rendering and focus transitions. The Pentax has a pleasing bokeh, but the greater contrast and sharpness of the Leica makes the foreground snap more.

    Leica S2 with Pentax 105mm 1/180th @ f/2.4, ISO 320

    Leica S2 with Leica 120mm 1/180th @ f/2.5, ISO 320

    I ran across what I am assuming is a replica Shelby Cobra parked in a small off-street lot and figured this could be a good opportunity to examine how these two lenses handled chrome, which is notorious for revealing chromatic aberration (CA). As you can see, the Leica performs up to its APO namesake with virtually no CA. The Pentax is obviously not corrected for CA and shows quite a lot, with shifts from red/purple to green. As much as I tried to eliminate the aberration in Lightroom, the CA was never completed eliminated.  

    Leica S2 with Pentax 105mm 1/3000th @ f/2.4, ISO 320 100% crop

    Leica S2 with Leica 120mm 1/3000th @ f/2.5, ISO 320 100% crop

    Leica S2 with Pentax 105mm 1/350th @ f/2.4, ISO 320

    Leica S2 with Leica 120mm 1/350th @ f/2.5, ISO 320

    In the interior of the car, the chrome-trimmed gauges and steering wheel are typically very prone to CA errors. Check out the 100% crop of the Leica shot for how chrome should look. Unfortunately, on this sequence, I didn't get the exact same shot for direct comparison, but the differences between the lenses are very obvious.  

    Leica S2 with Pentax 105mm 1/750th @ f/2.4, ISO 320 100% crop

    Leica S2 with Leica 120mm 1/1500th @ f/2.5, ISO 320 100% crop

    Across the street from the car was a wooden gate in open shade. The chain made for a nice, detailed target. Not only is the chain a bit soft in the resulting Pentax image, but in this diffuse lighting the overall contrast of the image is extremely low - whites are muted and darks are washed out.  

    Leica S2 with Pentax 105mm 1/1500th @ f/2.4, ISO 320 100% crop

    Leica S2 with Leica 120mm 1/1500th @ f/2.5, ISO 320 100% crop

    The color of the images produced by the Pentax 105 are much cooler than those of the Leica 120, losing some of the natural warm tones from some of the subjects and the feeling of afternoon light. You can see this on the following image of the palm tree trunk. On the plus side, the drawing of the lens is pleasing with very smooth bokeh and nice tonal transitions, although hard edges sometimes surround bright out of focus elements.  

    Leica S2 with Pentax 105mm 1/500th @ f/2.4, ISO 320 100% crop

    Leica S2 with Leica 120mm 1/500th @ f/2.5, ISO 320 100% crop

    This next series of shots show relative performance at infinity. To level the playing field, I shot both at f/8. As an added bonus, you can see how the Leica 120 performed at infinity wide-open verses the Pentax 105 at f/8. It's really impressive. One the things to note is the moire on the building's air vents. The Pentax shows considerable moire while the Leica shows almost none, which can be attributed to the Leica's superior resolving power and color correction, as well as its slightly greater magnification.

    Leica S2 with Pentax 105mm 1/500th @ f/8, ISO 320 100% crop

    Leica S2 with Leica 120mm 1/500th @ f/8, ISO 320 100% crop Just for grins: Leica 120mm @ f/2.5- 100% crop

    Moving closer for middle distances, this railroad track provided some excellent details as well as showing the difference in color rendering again. These were shot towards the end of the day and the Leica lens accurately shows the warm coloration of the light. Look at the bright wall behind the tracks on the left side of the frame.

    Leica S2 with Pentax 105mm 1/2000th @ f/2.4, ISO 320 100% crop

    Leica S2 with Leica 120mm 1/3000th @ f/2.5, ISO 320 100% crop

      In lieu of a brick wall, I went for the brightly colored wooden wall with a purple pipe. If you check out the crops of the pipe from the center of the image, the Pentax at f/5.6 still is not anywhere as sharp as the Leica is wide-open at f/2.5.

    Leica S2 with Pentax 105mm 1/2000th @ f/2.4, ISO 320 P105 @ f/2.4 - 100% crop P105 @ f/5.6 - 100% crop

    Leica S2 with Leica 120mm 1/1000th @ f/2.5, ISO 320 Leica 120mm @ f/2.5 - 100% crop Leica 120mm @ f/5.6 - 100% crop

      The Verdict Admittedly, this wasn't a fair fight. It’s like comparing a birthday party pony past his prime versus a thoroughbred race horse on the same track. The differences become very obvious very quickly. As such, I think the results were predictable even before I shot a single frame. The Leica 120mm S is just a spectacular piece of optical engineering. No one has ever made an f/2.5 max aperture 120mm macro lens for medium format before, especially one that can resolve 40 lp/m at more than 80% contrast wide-open and performs as well at close range as it does at infinity. This is truly one of the best lenses Leica has ever produced. So, the deck was already stacked in the Leica lens' favor.  

    Leica S2 with Pentax 105mm 1/4000th @ f/2.4, ISO 160 100% crop - center | 100% crop - edge

      The SMC Pentax 105 f/2.4 performed okay. For those wanting a fast portrait-length lens for the S2, it certainly does a decent job. At f/8 it is actually quite sharp. Wide-open, especially when compared to the Leica, the Pentax lens is pretty soft, with noticeably less sharpness and contrast. There is a good deal of CA which is not really correctable in software. Focusing on the S2 is easy and physically, the 105 is compact and light. One of the nice things about these older alternative lenses is that they are very inexpensive and have already been fully depreciated. If you buy a P67 105 for $500 and use it for six months while saving up for the 120 S, you can probably sell it for the same $500, essentially getting free use for that time and not tying up very much money.

    Leica S2 with Pentax 105mm 1/4000th @ f/2.4, ISO 320

    Alternative lenses like the P67 105 serve an important purpose (no, not showing how awesome the S lenses are). Not all S users will want or be able to justify having all the S lenses. A three lens kit like a 35, 70, 180 could be very well served by adding the P67 105 for the creative options it could add, and for the cost, it might be worth a try. I created a new discussion thread on the forum for comments and feedback: Testing the Pentax 105mm f/2.4 vs. the Leica 120mm f/2.5 APO View

    Gabriel,

    I'm not so sure I agree. Yes, a good quality print from a 6×7 original should be very nice indeed. But, I've seen prints from the S System at 5 feet across that are just stunning with incredible amounts of detail. It would be an interesting experiment for sure.

  • In reply to: David Farkas wrote a new post, Leica M Monochrom (Typ 246) Review Many in the photographic community have speculated that it was only a matter of time until Leica made a monochrome version of the M (Typ 240), more commonly known as the M240. The original M Monochrom, perhaps now […] View

    Joel,

    Leica has a partnership with Adobe (since 2009), so the best results will usually be had using Adobe software for DNG image processing. Is there a reason you are looking for alternatives to Lightroom?

  • Today, less than a month after release, Leica has issued a firmware update for the Leica M10.You can download the firmware here: Leica M10 Firmware 1.3.4.0.

    These aren't fixes for anything egregious. Rather, […]

  • While I was in Germany for the Celebration of Photography Event a.k.a The M10 Launch, I had a chance to sit down for a chat with Jesko von Oeyhausen, product manager for the Leica M10, and Stefan Daniel, Global […]

    • David,
      An incredibly through interview.
      You touched on some items that I had not gleaned from other reviews.
      Glad you asked about the eventual mono.
      Thank you.

    • Very nice interview, with lots of information. I hope this answers many people's questions about EVF, touch screen, video etc. I'm glad that although they are listening to their customers, they are trying to keep the M close to the original philosophy as much as possible.

    • Fred,

      For many M users, the M10 is the penultimate digital M, the one they've been waiting and dreaming of since the M8. Leica took user feedback into account when designing the M10. The top request was for a thinner body, with the same dimensions as a film M, and they delivered. Second most requested was an improvement in low light capability. The M10 shoots cleanly at ISO 10,000 with great color, where the M240 topped out at ISO 3200. For most users, lower noise, better color and increased dynamic range trump pure pixel count.

      The M10 also has a significantly improved optical viewfinder, a direct ISO dial, reduction in UI clutter, improved LV functionality, faster processing speed and frame rate. All around, the M10 is a natural evolution from the M240. It has a slightly smaller battery, but also more power efficient processing. On the M240, I carried two extra batteries for a full day of heavy shooting. I do the same with the M10.

      The omission of video wasn't due to heat. If this was the case, Live View would have been eliminated, as reading out for LV puts the same demands on the sensor and heat dissipation mechanisms. Video was taken out because the vast majority of M users didn't want it there. They complained vehemently of video ruining the pure M experience on the M240, and such an incredibly small percentage of M users ever used it. The concept of the M10 was to get back to basics, the essentials. Not marketing schpiel, but rather a company-wide mantra. Every product manager strives to this standard.

      I'm not saying that some users didn't appreciate video, or tethering via the multifunction grip, but Leica responded to the 90%+ of users who flat-out rejected these features as un-M-like. For those who want to tether or shoot pro level 4K video, and have the option to use M lenses, Leica offers the exceptional SL. This is the idea. M10 for the purists. SL for those requiring a professional feature set.

      I'd recommend checking out my full review on the M10 here. It's a fantastic camera to shoot with and the image quality is phenomenal. And, yes, I'm ok with 24MP, both on the M10 and SL. A 6um pixel size allows for stopping down to f/11 before hitting diffraction, and I have a stack of 24×36 inch prints that look incredible from nose-in-print distance. If the need arises, you can certainly print bigger and maintain gallery quality output, but again, most M shooters don't want or need to print this large. Will Leica ever increase the pixel count? Maybe, but only if there they can do so with no sacrifice in image quality, DR, low light ability or edge-to-edge performance.

      Go out and shoot with the M10 and you'll see that the M is far from dead. Quite the contrary, actually.

  • In reply to: Luis Mora wrote a new post, Shooting the "New" Leica 28mm Summaron-M in Little Havana Ever since Leica announced that they were reissuing the 28mm Summaron-M, I could’t wait to get my hands on one. I love classic Leica glass. The feel of the images. The vintage styling on the front of my M. The c […] https://youtu.be/ryBtnQZfUvs View

    Scott,

    There is an audio adapter for the SL to accept 3.5mm miniphone input and also provides a 3.5mm headphone jack for monitoring.

    For capturing video, I use a Video Devices PIX-E5H 5″ recording monitor which takes the clean feed off the sensor over HDMI. This allows me to record at 10-bit 422 rather than 8-bit 420 to the SD card. There are…[Read more]

  • Back in December I received an interesting invitation from Leica. My presence was requested at Leica’s corporate headquarters in Wetzlar, Germany to attend a Celebration of Photography, honoring legendary p […]

  • Keep it tuned to Red Dot Forum for full event coverage from Leica's headquarters at Leitz Park in Wetzlar, Germany. I arrived earlier today and am excited to attend tomorrow night's “A Celebration of Photography” […]

  • In reply to: Luis Mora wrote a new post, Shooting the "New" Leica 28mm Summaron-M in Little Havana Ever since Leica announced that they were reissuing the 28mm Summaron-M, I could’t wait to get my hands on one. I love classic Leica glass. The feel of the images. The vintage styling on the front of my M. The c […] https://youtu.be/ryBtnQZfUvs View

    Bernard,

    Yes, this is planned for the future for sure. There is a lot of uncertainty surrounding best practices for video. So many variables.

    I will certainly inquire about the ACES workflow, and work to educate myself more on this evolving standard.

    Thanks for the feedback.

  • In reply to: Luis Mora wrote a new post, Shooting the "New" Leica 28mm Summaron-M in Little Havana Ever since Leica announced that they were reissuing the 28mm Summaron-M, I could’t wait to get my hands on one. I love classic Leica glass. The feel of the images. The vintage styling on the front of my M. The c […] https://youtu.be/ryBtnQZfUvs View

    Jack,

    Thanks! I shot and edited the video.

  • In reply to: Luis Mora wrote a new post, Shooting the "New" Leica 28mm Summaron-M in Little Havana Ever since Leica announced that they were reissuing the 28mm Summaron-M, I could’t wait to get my hands on one. I love classic Leica glass. The feel of the images. The vintage styling on the front of my M. The c […] https://youtu.be/ryBtnQZfUvs View

    Thanks! The video was all recorded with the SL. Most of the footage was shot with the 35mm Summilux-TL, the beginning tracking shots were with the 23mm Summicron-TL, and the close-up beauty shots were with the 24-90 SL.

  • In reply to: Josh Lehrer wrote a new post, Leica SL (Typ 601) Firmware Version 2.2 Released Today, Leica has released firmware version 2.2 for the SL (Typ 601) mirrorless full-frame digital camera. The new firmware offers stability and performance improvements along with compatibility for the latest […] View

    You're not crazy at all. The SL is fantastic. Have you read our full review of the SL?

    Leica SL (Typ 601) – A Professional Mirrorless Camera

  • In reply to: David Farkas wrote a new post, Photokina 2016 - Interview with Stephan Schulz, Director of Leica's Professional Business Unit Towards the end of Photokina, I sat down with Stephan Schulz, the global director of Leica's new Business Unit Professional. We talked about what this new professional business unit would mean for customers, […] View

    I agree that the focus system failures on S lenses are troubling. Leica is actively working on a permanent fix for the issue. Keep in mind, though, that when a solution is implemented, Leica wants to be sure that the new part(s) will last in the long run. This is why high repetition QC testing is required to verify greater longevity and long-term…[Read more]

  • In reply to: David Farkas wrote a new post, Leica Announces New TL Camera Today, Leica announced the replacement for the T (Typ 701): the Leica TL. The new TL camera, which comes in at a price of $1,695, is almost identical to the original T launched two years ago. Same unibody […] View

    That is correct. The TL has a 1.5X crop factor relative to full frame 35mm.

  • Leica has announced a special edition APO-Summicron-M 50mm f/2 ASPH in red anodized finish. Limited to just 100 pieces worldwide, the special edition lens will come with a unique gray leather lens case and will […]

  • In reply to: David Farkas wrote a new post, A look at the New Leica Q (Typ 116) Titanium Gray The new Leica Q (Typ 116) Titanium Gray has just started to ship in the US. We got our hands on one and took the opportunity to do a quick unboxing vide, comparing it to the standard Leica Q (Typ 116) in black. […] View

    I didn't show any flash bracket in the Q video. Could you please clarify?

  • In reply to: David Farkas wrote a new post, Leica Announces New TL Camera Today, Leica announced the replacement for the T (Typ 701): the Leica TL. The new TL camera, which comes in at a price of $1,695, is almost identical to the original T launched two years ago. Same unibody […] View

    Yeah, S lenses would probably look immense on the TL. The crop factor calculation is the same as any other lens. So, a 35 S lens would behave the same way a 35 TL lens or 35 M lens would on the TL sensor, roughly equating to a 50mm FOV.

  • In reply to: David Farkas wrote a new post, Setting a new standard with Leica SL Lenses: A discussion with Peter Karbe at Photokina 2016 When I showed up for my meeting with Steffen Skopp, the product manager of the SL System, he greeted me and said, "I hope you don't mind, but I invited Peter Karbe to join us for our discussion." How could I […] View

    The 50 Lux SL is somewhat large, but not especially heavy. It balances really nicely with the SL. The Summicron SL lenses at the show were just design mock-ups – no glass inside. But, they will certainly be smaller and lighter than either the zooms or the 50 Lux.

  • As I posted yesterday, Leica shipped the first batch of Sofort instant cameras here in the US. We were able to get our hands on one and do a quick unboxing video, which is embedded below. Be sure to make the […]

  • Leica has started shipping the Sofort Instant Camera to dealers here in the US. The camera will be hitting dealers' shelves tomorrow on Thursday, November 10. Right now, just the white Sofort will be ava […]

  • Today, Leica announced the replacement for the T (Typ 701): the Leica TL.

    The new TL camera, which comes in at a price of $1,695, is almost identical to the original T launched two years ago. Same unibody […]

    • Yeah, S lenses would probably look immense on the TL. The crop factor calculation is the same as any other lens. So, a 35 S lens would behave the same way a 35 TL lens or 35 M lens would on the TL sensor, roughly equating to a 50mm FOV.

    • I was somewhat saddened to learn that I bought the T system a camera that was discountinued which I found out totally by accident from a friend who called me to buy the same camera, since I had touted the camera with so many accolades. I'm so glad that Leica has developed a newer model with the new features on the TL.

      My ultimate plan is to create a book of my incredible summer with my Leica T…now if I can trade up all will be forgiven 🙂

    • That is correct. The TL has a 1.5X crop factor relative to full frame 35mm.

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