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Vagueness and turtle slow output is a bit unsettling to be sure. One of the chief attributes of the S system is the dual shutter capability and a key reason I bought the S2 … which is a very attractive one at least from a professional photographer's POV.

I've owned the camera now for quite some time and have been unable to use the CS…[Read more]

Roger,
I think the biggest problem that the S2 had was poor product planning. Lenses were not readily available, lens family was not revealed, accessories kept secret. Now that it is older and some lenses available, the S3 has to hit a homerun in features in order to convince the public to buy into the system. The market for MFD can go with…[Read more]

It appears the drop in S2 used product continues below what I speculated .

Al

Take all your assumptions ….doesn t look promising for the S3 . Retained value is an important factor in how many people will trade up to the S3. Leica controls all the levers in pricing,availability, special programs .

Marc s point is relevant ..if you have to take a unusual high loss on you S2 ….many will just not upgrade…[Read more]

Marc

You are right…..let me start again(I screwed up my example). Lets assume that a new S3 base model is $25K . (there is plenty of margin in that number for Leica ). What would be a fair price for a used S2 sold by a dealer with a one year factory warranty . Say $14 to 15K ….so the dealer could pay you $11.5 to 12K or 50% of what…[Read more]

Or keep it for the reasons you bought it, and don't worry about it.

-Marc

The thought of a trade in program by Leica is pretty far fetched for a company that has never done it in their history. Add to that the thought of a price lowering of a camera again an event that has never been done. Two speculations that have very low probabilities to come to fruition.

However, stopping in a Leica shop in Honolulu, the…[Read more]

I don't understand your post Roger.

Are you saying factory new S2s with 1 year warranty at $11,000? Or used S2s with a 1 year warranty?

Either way, using the rough 1/3-2/3 dealer buy pricing model, that would place the value of the S2 in our hands at $7,500 or less. That would be the worst value ratio of any MFD brand to date based on…[Read more]

nice done !

Let me say up front Leica will not be offering a trade in program. Back when Leica provided better margins to the dealers ..it was the dealers that often supported the used prices. I had a dealer that called me as he was filling out his order to Leica …always got a very good trade in value . This dealer inturn always had great used gear…[Read more]

nice 🙂

very beautiful model btw 😉

My fovourite 50 mm: those I have now. I've sold 6 of them, none bad, but…. The Summicron (I) was the first that came and the first to go. I've adquired up to seven 50s and I've sold them to pay a Summilux ASPH. After that I've kept the Dual Range Summicron (II) for the chrome M4-P.

Andrew;2754 wrote: From Lloys Chambers Blog (posted today):

http://diglloyd.com/index.html

Leica S2

From what I hear, the situation is carnage on the Leica S2 front.

My multiple sources suggest that brand-new Leica S2 bodies might be being sold as “demo” or “display sample” units at quite significant discounts. This could o…

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Trade in program? Please. that's wishful thinking as Leica has never needed that. Nor will they need it now. Frankly a trade in program undermines Hassy values in my mind.

New users to the S system require a more modern body, even if the S2 outperforms their abilities. Most existing users who want an S3 will either sell their S2 used without…[Read more]

From Lloys Chambers Blog (posted today):

http://diglloyd.com/index.html

Leica S2

From what I hear, the situation is carnage on the Leica S2 front.

My multiple sources suggest that brand-new Leica S2 bodies might be being sold as “demo” or “display sample” units at quite significant discounts. This could only be done if Leica w…[Read more]

Just got word that mine should be here next week.

I DO have the H lens system … most interested in how the HC50-II and 100 do.

Still want the S/CS versions also … 1/1000 with he S-120/2.5 … yummy.

-Marc

Brian;2747 wrote: The Olympus Electronic Viewfinder EVF-2 is still considered the best all-around for dynamic range. I bought an EP-2 for this reason.

The NEX line offers 1.5x instead of a 2x crop. 2x crop: everything is a telephoto. The 1.5x- at least close to a Leica M8. If I were buying today: I would either go with an Olympus EP2 again,…

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Jack, I really like this one!

Manilaman2001;2732 wrote: For most of you users of the M lenses, which micro 4/3 brands & models would you recommend?

Which would be compatible also for Canon EOS EF lenses?

Through the years, glass has accumulated and I am seriously considering getting a body to optimize these glass collection I have.:confused:…

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I use a Heliopan HT (high transmission) SH PMC polarizer which results in just 1 stop of light loss (compared to the usual 2 stops with other polarizers). Definitely an advantage with the S2 when shooting handheld (like from a boat, for example). I also use the Tiffen Hi-Trans Titanium Multi Coated ND 0.6 grad filter (this is a screw-in rotating…[Read more]