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arminw replied to the topic Leica S2 and underwater case in the forum S2 14 years, 3 months ago
Thanks for the comments! I am not that brave at all, but I'd like to know what kind of options I've got . I don't need the case for scuba diving , and I wouln't want to take it deeper then 20 feed anyway …. it's more to use half/half in pools to capture some under water movements .
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David Farkas replied to the topic Backpack for S2 and 4 lenses in the forum Bags and Cases 14 years, 3 months ago
GMB;1967 wrote: Any suggestions for a backpack that can take the S2, 4 lenses, flash, and a bit of other stuff. Should also hold a tripod for hikes. thanks for any recommendations. Georg
Georg,
I use the Kata 222-UL Bumblebee ultralight backpack. It holds the S2 and 4 lenses in the bottom section and all my Schneider 4″ filters in the…[Read more]
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David K replied to the topic Leica S2 and underwater case in the forum S2 14 years, 3 months ago
You are a brave man to consider taking your S2 scuba diving. If I were still shooting underwater images I think I'd rather buy a dedicated DSLR and appropriate housing. I still have my Light and Motion housing with an early Olympus digital camera, lights, etc. Found it quite challenging to get good underwater images. But please keep us posted…[Read more]
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Al Tanabe replied to the topic Leica S2 and underwater case in the forum S2 14 years, 3 months ago
Good catch Pete, 20 feet is not enough for scuba considerations. I see these cases used by most all of the surf photographers shooting while swimming in the waves.
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Pete Walentin replied to the topic Leica S2 and underwater case in the forum S2 14 years, 3 months ago
Atanabe;1963 wrote: Here is a link to a custom builder in Hawaii. He has built some pretty impressive cases for the surf photographers in Hawaii. In fact most of the water footage that you have seen on the big screen have used his cases.
At the About page it says: “depths less than 20…[Read more]
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Al Tanabe replied to the topic Leica S2 and underwater case in the forum S2 14 years, 3 months ago
Here is a link to a custom builder in Hawaii. He has built some pretty impressive cases for the surf photographers in Hawaii. In fact most of the water footage that you have seen on the big screen have used his cases.
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David K replied to the topic Bethesda by the Sea…Palm Beach in the forum Images to Share 14 years, 3 months ago
The second shot posted isn't as sharp as I would have liked but I still liked it enough to consider a keeper. Kind of a grab shot as we were wrapping up and walking back towards the car. Funny how often something like that becomes a favorite…
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Mark Gowin replied to the topic view camera adapter for S2? in the forum Alternative Lenses 14 years, 3 months ago
Hey Stuart,
I am sure David or Josh will jump in and let you know what they have tried or are thinking of trying. They brought some sort of technical camera adapted to attach to an S2 with them on the New England fall foilage trip last fall. I used it with my S2 for a photo of a church to gain perspective control. It worked with no problem,…[Read more]
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Kurt Kamka replied to the topic Just Another Day With My S2 in the forum Images to Share 14 years, 3 months ago
Thanks Pete. The great thing about getting out and shooting everyday is that it provides me with a convenient excuse to ignore the notion of self-editing … for better or worse.
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Leica Guy replied to the topic Dust Speck in Viewfinder in the forum S2 14 years, 3 months ago
David,
Thanks for the news. Okay, it's just a matter of time before I call you for a 120mm.
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David Farkas replied to the topic Dust Speck in Viewfinder in the forum S2 14 years, 3 months ago
Leica Guy;1943 wrote: David,
Thanks for the quick answer. If it has to be sent in, is this something covered under warranty? (My first thought is no, but thought I'd ask.)
Not a big deal, but just like to know before I decide to buy. The camera still has 8 months of warranty left on it.
Dust in the prism or viewfinder assembly…[Read more]
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irakly replied to the topic Review: S2 verses Leaf Aptus 12! in the forum S2 14 years, 3 months ago
Doug Herr;1938 wrote: Depends on the subject and the photographer. My wildlife lens is the Leica 280mm f/4. I'll use it with an extender as needed, but I sold my longer lenses. I've also used 100mm and 180mm lenses for wildlife. Good field technique can often substitute for many mm of focal length.
Absolutely. I shot an assignment in…[Read more]
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Leica Guy replied to the topic Dust Speck in Viewfinder in the forum S2 14 years, 3 months ago
David,
Thanks for the quick answer. If it has to be sent in, is this something covered under warranty? (My first thought is no, but thought I'd ask.)
Not a big deal, but just like to know before I decide to buy. The camera still has 8 months of warranty left on it.
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David Farkas replied to the topic Dust Speck in Viewfinder in the forum S2 14 years, 3 months ago
Leica Guy;1940 wrote: A potential seller has given me an S2 to try out for a day or two before I decide to buy. I don't want to do anything intrusive with the camera until I tell him we have a deal. There is a faint dust speck in the viewfinder that doesn't appear in the photos. Is that just a matter of cleaning the focusing screen? It's not a big…
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Leica Store wrote a new post 14 years, 3 months ago
When the S2 launched, Leica announced that the camera would feature a dual shutter system. The rear of the S2 has a power switch with three positions: Off, FPS and CS. FPS stands for focal plane shutter, which is standard in just about every SLR-type camera out there (except the Hasselblad H system). CS stands for central shutter, also commonly referred to as a leaf shutter or a lens shutter. Leica is getting close to launching the CS lenses and I had an opportunity to try them out. Before getting into the tests, let’s take a look at what a dual shutter system offers.

Advantages for focal plane shuttersFound in just about every SLR made, focal plane shutters have the advantage that they can fire at much higher speeds than lens shutters. The S2’s shutter is capable of speeds up to 1/4000th of a second, while leaf shutters are usually limited to 1/500th or 1/800th. This can be an issue if you want to shoot in bright sunny conditions with a very wide aperture. If we suppose that an average daylight exposure is 1/500th @ f/8, ISO 160, then if we want to shoot at f/2.8 we really do need to be able to crank the shutter speed up to 1/4000th. In the case of a Hasselblad H4D, the camera only has a lens shutter that is limited to 1/800th. In order to shoot at f/2.8 in bright sun, you’d have to use a 2 or 3-stop ND filter on your lens. Of course, this also makes the viewfinder very dark and provides a challenge to the autofocus system. Besides being able to shoot at wide apertures for depth of field control, stopping action also becomes an issue if limited to slower shutter speeds. Even the fastest action can be frozen at 1/4000th.
And because the focal plane shutter is in the camera body, lenses from other systems can be adapted given an adequate focal flange distance. The S2 body can easily accept lenses from Pentax 67, Mamiya 645 and Hasselblad V systems by using adapters.
How a focal plane shutter works
A focal plane shutter is comprised of two shutter curtains working in unison. The first curtain opens to expose the sensor, then after a predetermined amount of time, which we call the shutter speed, the rear curtain closes to end the exposure. At slow speeds (slower than 1/125th on the S2) the first curtain is fully open before the second curtain stats to close. At faster speeds (faster than 1/125th on the S2) the second curtain starts to close before the first curtain is fully open. At the fastest speed of 1/400th the space between the curtains is just a horizontal sliver which moves vertically in front of the sensor. The reason for this is that the speed of travel of the curtain is fixed; only the time between first and second curtains affects shutter speed.
Disadvantages for focal plane shuttersThe downside of a focal plane shutter is that the flash sync speed is limited. Because a strobe fires a single burst at a very short duration, usually in the neighborhood of 1/3000th of a second, the sensor must be fully exposed when the flash fires. If the second curtain has already started to close in order to get faster shutter speeds, you’ll see a dark line in the resulting image. The fastest speed at which the shutter is fully open is referred to as the X-sync speed. In the case of the S2, this is 1/125th of a second. This isn’t an issue in studio where everything is controlled, but it could be an issue when using battery-powered strobes outside.
A look at central shutters
The central shutter used in Leica CS lenses is comprised of four carbon fiber blades mounted in the center of the lens (kind of obvious looking at the name, I suppose). The optical elements and the light ray bundle passing though them have the smallest diameter at this point, which allows the shutter blades to be as small as possible in order to open and close in the shortest amount of time. As opposed to a focal plane shutter, a central shutter only has one set of blades which open and close in a circular fashion to expose the sensor, mechanically similar to how a lens aperture works. One of the benefits of this approach is that a central shutter is able to sync with a strobe at any shutter speed up to its maximum. In the case of the S2, this is 1/500th of a second, or two stops faster than the focal plane shutter’s X-sync speed.
Besides faster sync speeds, lens shutters also offer lower vibration than focal plane shutters due to less moving mass. In DSLR systems, the mirror is usually the key vibration factor, which is why it is good practice to use mirror lock-up when shooting at slower speeds on a tripod. But, even with mirror lock-up, not all focal plane shutters have the same amount of vibration. The S2’s shutter is extremely well damped. Other cameras like the Pentax 645D…not so much. No amount of mirror lock-up will prevent shutter bounce at speeds like 1/15th.
What about both?On most camera systems the photographer is usually limited to one shutter system or another. Nikon and Canon DSLRs only offer focal plane shutters. The Hasselblad H system only offers lens shutters. The Leica S2 was designed with the intention of allowing the use of either the built-in focal plane shutter or a central shutter when used with a CS lens. Even more conveniently, there is a quick switch on the back of the camera to select which shutter to fire. And, Leica has added a couple fail-safes to the procedure. If you are set to CS but have no CS lens mounted, the camera will still function in FPS mode with just an on-screen alert to the user. Similarly, if you are shooting in CS mode with a CS lens mounted but set the shutter speed dial faster than 1/500th, the camera will automatically switch into FPS mode. Both are designed to keep the camera from getting in the way of the natural flow of shooting.

S2 product manager Stephan Shulz explained to me how the S2 works with both shutters. He outlined the firing sequence as follows:- Shutter release is pressed
- Mirror goes up
- Aperture diaphragm closes down to desired f-stop
- Focal plane shutter opens
- Camera starts exposure electronically
- Central shutter closes
- Aperture opens
- Focal plane shutter closes
- Central shutter opens
- Mirror returns
What’s interesting to note in the sequence is that the exposure starts electronically. This allows for a simpler movement by only having the central shutter close to end the exposure rather than open and close. Mirror blackout time and shutter lag are both minimized, which I found more than acceptable in my own testing.
Leica CS Lenses
The Leica CS lenses are virtually identical to their non-CS lens counterparts. They have exactly the same optical design and the only exterior visual cue is the small white CS letters engraved after the focal length on the lens barrel. Because they have an added shutter mechanism, the CS versions are a couple ounces heavier, but in practice, the added weight is not noticeable.
Not all S lenses will be available in CS versions. The 30mm Elmarit-S, 35mm Summarit-S, 70mm Summarit-S, 120mm APO-Macro-Summarit-S and the 180mm APO-Elmar-S will all be available in CS versions, but upcoming lenses like the 24mm super wide angle and the 30-90mm zoom will only come in non-CS flavors.CS Lens Upgrade Program
Leica is still offering a CS lens upgrade program for anyone that has purchased a brand new non-CS lens up until the official release of the CS lenses. Essentially, you would only have to pay the difference in price between the non-CS and the CS version, trade-in the old lens, then take delivery of a new CS lens. While we don’t have all the details on how the logistics will work, Leica has been very clear that the upgrade program only applies to first owners who have purchased brand new lenses from an authorized dealer. In other words, used lenses don’t qualify.
Actually shooting with CS lenses
Thanks to our friends from Leica Germany, we were able to get a couple days to test two CS lens prototypes, a 70mm CS and 120mm CS. The lenses, we were told, were QC samples with over 150,000 shutter actuations each.
Without time to organize a full shoot I called up our friend Amy, who was going to be working at an event on Fort Lauderdale Beach with her daughter Alex. Graciously, Alex agreed to do a little impromptu modeling for some casual testing. This was not the usual full-production shoot with assistants and hair/makeup. I kept the equipment simple with a single Profoto AcuteB 600R pack and one head with a Profoto white beauty dish. Triggering was accomplished with a PocketWizard Plus II transceiver on the camera and the built-in receiver on the AcuteB pack.
In this first shot, I wanted to give a reference point with just natural light taken wide-open. Without a focal plane shutter, I wouldn’t have been able to shoot at f/2.5 as there was an abundance of daylight, even on a slightly overcast day.
The next image is what you would get by using a strobe at 1/125th of a second, in other words, without a central shutter. To darken the sky further, you’d have to stop down to f/16 or more. This can be problematic for two reasons: sharpness-robbing diffraction and the need to use a lot of flash power on the battery pack. More power output translates to longer recycle times and reduced battery life.
Now, this is what is easily accomplished with a CS lens at 1/500th. Here, the ambient exposure is actually 1/500th @ f/5.6. By shooting at f/8, I am underexposing the background by one stop, deepening the color and providing a slight amount of pop. As an added benefit, I also am using almost two stops less power on my Profoto pack which equates to 1/4 the amount of power. This allows for much faster recycle times and longer battery life.
For the next shot, I turned the power back up to f/13 but kept the shutter speed at 1/500th. The background is now being underexposed by two and a half stops, making for a pretty dramatic image. The amount of flash power is exactly the same as the shot taken at f/125th above.
Of course, with a high sync speed of 1/500th we can push things a little further. Here, I set the ISO to Pull 80 (lowering the exposure an extra stop) and went one half stop further on the aperture to f/16. The background is now being underexposed by four stops! Overall, the image looks like it was shot at dusk. Almost 100% of the light on Alex is from our strobe. You can actually see that on her left arm there is a shadow. In reality, this is where the sun was hitting her arm. We’ve completely overpowered the sun and stayed away from having to resort to extremely small apertures where quality would have suffered. And, my little 600Ws battery pack with one head was fully up to the task of providing enough light.
Of course, there are in-between settings that don’t have to go to extremes. Here, it’s easy to make a pleasing blend of ambient and strobe by dialing back a little power and shooting at more open apertures, using the higher shutter speed alone to control the background. The use of the 120mm also helps to reduce DOF.
For the last set, I wanted to show what happens when you keep the overall exposure the same but vary the DOF. The first shot is taken at 1/125th @ f/8 to show the result with focal plane shutter only.
The second shot was taken at 1/500th @ f/4 at the same equivalent exposure. I lowered the flash power by two stops to compensate. The result is obviously much smoother and I prefer the overall look.
Conclusion
While my test was somewhat brief, I did appreciate the added flexibility of the higher sync speed on the CS lenses. The additional speed allowed for shallower depth of field and more ambient light control. The marginal increase in weight wasn't noticeable and the additional viewfinder blackout was minimal and not objectionable. For photographers shooting on location with strobes and requiring fast sync speed, the lenses will be an invaluable addition to the S system.
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Doug Herr replied to the topic Review: S2 verses Leaf Aptus 12! in the forum S2 14 years, 3 months ago
constable;1936 wrote: … The only points I would raise are that in the 35 mm system 300 is never long enough for wildlife (in fact no lense is!)…
Depends on the subject and the photographer. My wildlife lens is the Leica 280mm f/4. I'll use it with an extender as needed, but I sold my longer lenses. I've also used 100mm and 180mm…[Read more]
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Sawboneslf replied to the topic 180mm or 120mm First? in the forum S Lenses 14 years, 3 months ago
120 for sure. It is much more versatile and the only macro lens. I have the 35, 70, and the 120. The need for distant subject isolation required for the 180 is not missed and with 37.5 megapixels you can crop for the same effect with minimal loss of detail.
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constable replied to the topic Review: S2 verses Leaf Aptus 12! in the forum S2 14 years, 3 months ago
irakly;1933 wrote:
As to the price tag, look at it this way: Leica S2 is a system, which makes 35mm SLR unnecessary for the most part. So, there is no need to maintain two systems. It really saves you 10-15 grand, depending on your lens lineup.
Even for those who shoot wildlife and sports, all you need is one 35mm SLR body and a 300/2.8… -
irakly replied to the topic Review: S2 verses Leaf Aptus 12! in the forum S2 14 years, 3 months ago
Stuart Richardson;1929 wrote: …….
The only real downsides I can think of are the size and weight (comparable or less than most competitors), and the expense (ridiculously expensive, but worth it).
Well, the size and weight is not really a downside of this particular camera. It is just one of pleasant inevitabilities of…[Read more]
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David Farkas replied to the topic 180mm or 120mm First? in the forum S Lenses 14 years, 3 months ago
arminw;1931 wrote: Sorry to jump into this thread with another question , because I am also deciding wether to get the 120 or 180 but can't make up my mind in regards of which one would be wise to get the CS versions or not . My guts tell me to get the CS versions, but then again it's another waiting time and also I don't think Leica is holding on…
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